Problem 335 - Error in thermal neutron capture crosssection on hydrogen atoms.
Summary: Error in thermal neutron capture crosssection on hydrogen atoms.
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Geant4
Classification: Unclassified
Component: processes/hadronic (show other problems)
Version: 4.0
Hardware: PC Linux
: P2 normal
Assignee: Hans-Peter.Wellisch
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Reported: 2001-12-28 07:47 CET by machulin
Modified: 2002-02-12 11:16 CET (History)
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Description machulin 2001-12-28 07:47:12 CET
In Geant4.4.0 and 4.3.2 versions the calculation of neutron life time in
hydrogen-content mediums (e.g. water, liguid scintillators, etc.) at room
temperature gives the wrong results. The obtained neutron lifetime ~20%
lower than the reference values.
 In Geant4.3.01 version the calculations of neutron lifetime at room
temperature is correct.
 The discrepancy in 4.3.2 and 4.4.0 versions comes from wrong treatement of
hydrogen capture libraries. The energy of incident neutron is recalculated,
taking into account the temperature movement of Hydrogen atoms. See files
G4NeutronHPCapture.cc and G4NeutronHPCapturData.cc.
 But the hydrogen capture crossection data (GNDL libraries) for thermal
neutrons had been measured at room temperature and already take into
account the temperature Maxwell distribution of Hydrogen atoms.
See for example:"Traite de neutronique", Jean Bussac, ISBN 2 7056 6011 0,
1985, France or other book on neutron physics.
 The previous version of Geant4 - 4.3.01 gives the correct value of
neutron lifetime due to the fact that in files G4NeutronHPCapture.cc
and G4NeutronHPCaptureData.cc there were no additional recalculations
for temperature movements of medium atoms.

	Olivier Dadoune  dadoun@in2p3.fr
	Bernard Lefievre lefievre@in2p3.fr
	Igor Machulin    machulin@in2p3.fr
Comment 1 Hans-Peter.Wellisch 2002-01-21 08:30:59 CET
if the G4NDL data are room temperature, we have a bug indeed.
It was meant to be at 0K. I'll double-check.

Many greetings,

Hans-Peter.
Comment 2 Hans-Peter.Wellisch 2002-01-21 09:57:59 CET
Hi folks,
   I checked, and found that the data are 0K cross-sections. Since this is a 1/v
cross-section, though, it is invariant under doppler broadening. In addition,
from what I see, the doppler broadening on the fly is effective, but as expected
changes the mean cross-section only marginally. Since you see a 20% effect, can
you please tell me, what the set-up and data was that you used, to benchmark?

Many greetings,

Hans-Peter.
Comment 3 Hans-Peter.Wellisch 2002-02-12 11:00:59 CET
a sign error in the calculation of the effective luminosity was
fixed in the last neutron_hp tag - neu-V04-00-00

Many greetings,

Hans-Peter.